When I wrote Peace and Riot I actually thought you could use a few bars of music and not have to get permission from the composer. My reasoning for this is because when you listen to talk radio, you often hear a bumper (a bit of music at the before/ after commercials) and I figured the talk radio station wasn’t paying any type of music license fee. I figured I could do the same thing for my movie. I was wrong.
I emailed Joe Escalante of Barely Legal Radio. Joe is not only a radio lawyer, but he is has been playing punk rock for 30 years with The Vandals. If you looked at his resume, you’d see he was an entertainment lawyer (for a main player in the business) and also ran a record label (that also distributed movies). Somehow in his busy week he finds that time to do the radio show and keeps it entertaining and informative. If anyone was going to know about what kind of rights I needed for this movie, he would be the guy.
Mr. Escalante responded the email asking me to come on his show and talk about my movie. It was great to finally hear a guy who has been in the music industry for three decades and also had a law degree. He has been on both sides of what I was attempting to do. The Vandals have licensed their music to movies like “Glory Days”, “Dudes” “xXx” and of course my favorite punk rock film “Suburbia.”
During our on-air conversation, I learned from Joe Escalante Esq. that I needed publishing rights. My actors would be playing the music and therefore wouldn’t be licensing the master recording. He suggested going directly to bands that still owned the rights to their music. Going through a publishing company would be costly and take more time. However, if I could contact the owners (bands) directly and they thought my movie sounded like something the group could support, they might give me publishing rights at a discount.
While on the air I described the movie briefly, which Joe thought sounded like a cool idea. I asked if The Vandals would be interested in licensing some music. He said it would be considered. A week later, I emailed him with the scene that I’d like to have included some tunes by his band. He gave me a great deal on licensing “The Legend of Pat Brown” for my feature. “Pat Brown” is one of those iconic punk rock songs by The Vandals which appears on their “Peace Through Vandalism” CD/Album and was featured in the movie “Suburbia.”
Having the blessing of Joe Escalante behind your movie helps out a lot when talking with other bands. With his endorsement, I became legitimate. I was no longer some winky-dink production and also I had the credibility that I was not just another suit trying to make a fast buck off the punk rock world.
As for The Vandals and “The Legend of Pat Brown”, I can only hope my movie just adds to their legacy.
I was a fan before I set out to make this movie and after the little bit of communication I’ve had with them, I like them a whole lot more.